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I'd been waiting in some trepidation for the feedback from my editor at Bella Books. (I didn't know who it would be until I actually received the feedback.) You hear depressing stories about how nobody has the budget to do actual editing any more and you're lucky if they even get some intern to do a proofreading pass. Well, I have to say I'm much relieved and heartened to find that Daughter of Mystery was the subject of serious critical review ... but also a bit chuffed at the relatively small amount of "corrective" editing I received. The feedback pretty much came in three parts: minor changes and suggestions red-lined in the file; more nebulous but still focussed recommendations regarding specific scenes; and a couple of big-picture items that apply to the whole story. The first category was easily dealt with. I'd say I just hit "accept change" on about 80% of them and took most of the rest as an indication that some fix was needed, but I fixed it in a slightly different way. There were only two items worthy of a stet and those were both cases where I was doing something fairly subtle and below-the-radar with word choice, but it was important both that it be there and that it not be made more overt.

The scene-specific suggestions are all ones I agree with, now that they've been pointed out. (This character's conflict with the protagonists needs to be resolved more explicitly, that scene needs to be on- rather than off-stage and with a different viewpoint, etc.) But the suggestions that I could tell would be the most work -- yet I couldn't argue against their validity -- were that I add more explicit description of my main characters' appearance, and that I give my readers more reminders of just who people are if they've been out of the story for a while.

OK, fair cop. I'm not a visual person. I know these characters very thoroughly, like the back of my ... eyelids. But I honestly didn't really know what they looked like. There's a reason why I have trouble recognizing people -- even ones I see regularly. I simply don't think in visuals. (This is probably also part of why I tend to get weird around compliments to my appearance. For me, visual appearance is ... unimportant. It's not "real".) But my editor wasn't the first reader who had commented about wanting a better idea of what my characters looked like. So ... fair cop. Now how do I do it? Hey, I'm a geek. So the first thing I do is pull out my spreadsheet.

Well of course I have a spreadsheet with all my characters (and place names, and specialized terminology, and invented authors and their works, and ... well you get the picture), cross-referenced by the place of residence, class, and which social circles they hang out in. Once I started working on my second piece of fiction set in Alpennia, I also added columns for which characters appear in which works. But if I need to keep track of which characters are prominent enough to need description, and where that description would best be introduced (especially if it relies on being presented through a particular point of view), and especially if I need to keep track of when a character has been offscreen for long enough that I need to remind the reader who they are ... well, for that I need to expand things a little.

So now the spreadsheet includes columns for every chapter in Daughter of Mystery, for the short story (a pre-quel) Three Nights at the Opera, and for what I've written so far of The Mystic Marriage. And each character that appears in any given chapter is so noted, with an "n" if they are named and an "r" if they are referred to in some way not including a name or title. I then went in and highlighted red for the first appearance where a visual description would be appropriate (the character has to be physically on-screen and the POV character has to have a rational reason for ruminating on their appearance). A pink highlight is added for opportunities for further description (either by the other viewpoint character or in a particular circumstance where a consideration of appearance would make sense). A yellow highlight marks the reappearance of a character after 4 to 8 chapters off-screen where a casual reminder of the character's identity and/or relationships might not go amiss.

So now I know where I'm going to put the descriptions ... but what am I going to describe? What it comes down to is that I don't have to know exactly what my characters look like ... any more than I need to know the complete geographic layout of the city of Rotenek. I just need enough scaffolding that my readers can easily fill in the specifics, and I need to not contradict myself. So along with noting what description I've already included (which -- when I started cataloging it -- really is pitifully little), I started casting about for images to use ... not so much as references, but as anchors. As a way to describe a consistent whole, without necessarily describing all the specifics. The vast majority of my reference images I snagged from portraiture of the era. (Sometimes I strayed a little earlier and pick images that were "the character as a young woman/man" simply because it can be hard to find portraits of older people.) But for a few of my characters I wanted to start from a very specific physical type. So, for example, for Barbara I started browsing pictures of Olympic fencers and stumbled across what I now consider the definitive inspirational image:Italian fencer Valentina Vezzali. (Please note that I'm not saying this is what Barbara looks like. I'm saying that when the reader develops a picture of Barbara from my description, I want it to feel like the energy I get from Vezzali. Also, Barbara wears more clothes.) There are a couple of other characters where, once I started thinking about it, there was a particular actor or screen character who had the "feel" that I wanted to achieve, and therefore where I could use that character as an anchor. But for the most part I find that Hollywood faces -- especially women -- are much too same-same and far too modern to give me the right sort of inspiration.

At any rate, I now have at least one visual anchor for every character who will get a physical description at some point in Daughter of Mystery. And I have my chapter-by-chapter schedule of where to consider inserting those descriptions. The only logistical problem is that during the week I normally do my writing work on the iPad (easier to whip out on BART than the laptop -- especially if I don't get a seat), but since I'm tracking changes for the current revisions, I have to do it in the full version of Word. So I may end up just writing fragments of descriptive prose in my Evernote files (yes, this project finally tipped me over into getting an Evernote account) to be inserted when I can work at home.

Maybe the whole spreadsheet thing is overkill. All I know is that when I hit the parts of the writing process that aren't natural to me, a good spreadsheet can make up the deficit.

Date: 2013-09-23 05:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] green-knight.livejournal.com
First, Office^2 now does track changes on iOS, and as far as I can tell, it's fully compatible with the desktop version. Well worth using. (Pages, IIRC, also does track changes, but it's more fuss.)

Second, Sherwood Smith - who is a *very* visual writer - very rarely does a full-on description of a character. Instead, she weaves in a visual detail at every opportunity, like 'he stretched out a slender hand to open the door' or 'the smile did not reach his gray eyes'. For major characters, particularly ones she wants the reader to recognise immediately, she tends to pick one major, and _unique_ detail, so that when you see gray eyes, you know which character they belong to.

I don't know how much of this is useful, but I've watched it with a certain degree of envy...

And while I don't use a spreadsheet (I use Storyist to hold all the info for a book) your copy editor will adore you if you send them a copy of the list of all the names and all the places and the descriptions thereof, because they will, in all likelyhood, compile one. Not having to query spellings or deviating description is a Good Thing, she says darkly.

Date: 2013-09-23 05:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hrj.livejournal.com
Yes, the index of proper names and invented terminology will be provided. (I always loved it when authors sent one of those when I worked at MZB-FM.) At one point I even went through the painful exercise of turning my entire manuscript into a "unique instances" list to find the spots where I had been inconsistent in spelling the names.

Date: 2013-09-23 05:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hrj.livejournal.com
Oh, and I have pledged myself that none of my primary protagonists will ever have red hair or eyes that are either gray or violet. Well, ok, I might relent on red hair if I've worked my way through enough protagonists that it would be statistically odd not to.

Date: 2013-09-23 04:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joycebre.livejournal.com
I know you're a Georgette Heyer fan, so I'd look to her as a great appearance descriptor - I know exactly what all of her characters look like. Hair, eyes, brows, noses, lips, body types, fashion preferences, even what they like to eat. Which may be too much for your books (I'm waiting for them to publish before I read them) but you could take any parts of the above.

Date: 2013-09-24 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anotheranon.livejournal.com
FWIW, as a reader I sometimes enjoy it when characters' physical descriptions are painted in broad strokes because it gives me freer reign to fill in the details for myself.

Come to think of it, some of the best physical descriptions I've read have less to do with the stereotypical "checklist" of physical attributes (eye color, hair color, height, weight, etc.) and more to do with body language, gesture, and manner: elegant gestures, awkward gait, solid stance, predatory gaze.. I almost think those tell me more than something like height or hair color.

Date: 2013-09-24 04:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hrj.livejournal.com
The thing is, I already have a lot of the body language and action/reaction descriptions, so it's clear that my editor wants more of the "checklist" type. I'm working hard not to have "let's stop and describe the character" moments. But the really awkward part is that given how tight my point of view is, the POV character has to have some reason to notice a character's appearance in order for it to make sense to include it. Since there are very few characters that both my POV characters are already familiar with at the start of the story, it's mostly a matter of picking the first unfamiliar context. But one of Margerit's aunts is proving awkward because we're quite some way into the story before there's an opportunity for Barbara to notice her appearance. I think I've worked around it, but I need to review all the revisions when I'm done to make sure nothing sticks out like a sore thumb.

Date: 2013-09-25 10:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anotheranon.livejournal.com
Ok, it does sound like you've got your work cut out for you :/

Re: Storyist

Date: 2013-09-25 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anotheranon.livejournal.com
What is the advantage of using Storyist over regular Word or Google Docs? I'm considering whether I should bother with specific software.

If this isn't the place to ask, please feel free to IM me.

Re: Storyist

Date: 2013-09-26 04:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] green-knight.livejournal.com
(Storyist is Mac-only, Scrivener is dual platform)

You may have heard of Scrivener, which left me meh, while Storyist inspired me to mess around with it, so that was my choice. The biggest advantages are

- everything is in one single file
- superior organisation of material
- I can see two things side by side

I do still write first draft in Word, but I write all notes in Storyist. I used to have lists and documents with extra material and outtake files and spreadsheets and... now I have one project, which allows me to organise material in folders and subfolders. So I create a new character sheet for every character, and on it I note everything relating to them - physical description, other names, patterns of speech, everything, and ditto for locations. I can even dump images into the file so they are only a click away.

Storyist creates an outline in a bar on the left from headings - which gives you an instant outline and a very quick way of navigating to a particular point in the story. Just condense and expand at will, rather than having to scroll through a large document.

Right now, I am working on a translation (a sequel) and have four mss in one document. This makes 'did the author use [term] in book one and how did I translate it' a doddle: do a full-text search, note which section the original text is in, find it in the translation of book 1, and it's done. And if I was clever enough to enter the term into my glossary, I can see *that* in the search results as well.

Having two items side by side - without having to constantly move and resize windows - is wonderful. I can have reference open next to text, work on two section of the same text, see text and outline side by side, go through the text sequentially while clicking through search results in the other window, or have text and notecards open.

Ah yes, the notecards. With a little bit of fiddling, I have notecards of various colours and sizes which I can move around and use for quick overviews or brainstorming. Because they're non-linear, they often shake loose things that sections in a continuous Word document don't.

If I have to pick one trait, I would be torn between 'all material in one place' and 'side-by-side-view'. I use Storyist extensively for freelance editing, and it makes life just *so* much better.

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