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I decided to take in a single day at Baycon, since I have a bunch of catching up around the house to do this weekend. One of my planned hanging-out buddies cancelled, so it was just me and [livejournal.com profile] scotica with occasional intersections with the downstairs tenant who had gotten a ride with me. I managed a small amount of bumping into folks and chatting. The programming was a bit disappointing though. It seemed like there were more program slots where there wasn't anything much of interest than there were where I had to make decisions between items. A few too many "generic con panel on standard topic X" and moderators who contributed to off-topicness rather than guiding things back on-topic. But at least the day ended up with a couple of unintentionally-amusing panels. (In the same way that historic-theme movies can be unintentionally amusing.) The panel on historic female pirates (the Baycon theme for this year was pirates) inspired [livejournal.com profile] scotica and I to review our "historic movie/fiction fallacies" checklist. We got as high as 21 checkbox items, although we invented some new pirate-specific ones. Just as a sampler:

* Pre-modern women couldn't own property
* Pre-Christian society was non-sexist with gender equality
* Because modern women set a premium on personal independence, historic women must have been attracted to occupations like piracy in order to pursue freedom from oppression and personal fulfillment.
* All historic societies considered it bad luck to have a woman on board ship.
* I know all about historic societies because I've worked Ren Faire.
* Oral tradition and folklore transmit historic data in a perfectly unaltered and unbiased form.
* There was a consistent and universal "pirate culture" across all of time and space.

I confess I allowed myself to be egged on to a leading question with side bets on the panel's answer. After the panelists had listed off a handful of anecdotes about "actual historic Viking women pirates" I asked about what sources I might use for further research into this topic if I wanted to dig deeper. You'd think that after we'd been told about some highly specific examples, the proposed reading list would be a bit less vague than "sagas and runestones". (I'm afraid it was about the level of specificity that the bet had predicted.) I'm all for people researching and educating about non-traditional women in history. Unfortunately you don't research and educate by rattling off a string of vague unsupported and unsourced claims.

We were hoping to bump into [livejournal.com profile] klwilliams at some point, but concluded she must have been hanging out in room parties somewhere with all her famous author friends. (pout)

Date: 2008-05-25 09:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] green-knight.livejournal.com
Your list... it is painful. Then again, the whole concept of 'viking pirates' seems a little dubious to start with...

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