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This is a rough translation (with the help of Babelfish.yahoo.com for much of the grunt labor) of the aforementioned article about the 15th c. underpants find at Schloss Lengberg. The original article is by Dr. Beatrix Nutz and I apologize to her if I've mangled any of the facts beyond recognition.

The Unmentionables

That's what one formerly called the undergarments, above all the underpants, which shame forbade one to talk about. Nevertheless they've been around for quite a while. The Romans called them "subligar" and in the Middle Ages they were called "broche", when they were primarily considered a garment for men. Nevertheless there is also a depiction of young Roman women at the baths (fig. 1) wearing a similar article of clothing. Yet in the Middle Ages they were known only from artwork (fig. 3) until now a pair of late medieval underpants were found in Tirol in an archaeological dig (fig. 4). The find was discovered, together with numerous other textiles, including leather, mainly shoes, and futher organic remains, including a wooden flute, from a spandrel in Schloss Lengberg, in the Nikolsdorf district in East Tirol in 2008. Spread out, they have a roughly hourglass cut, somewhat wider at the "hind" end and with ties on the corners, by which they resemble a modern bikini. Made from linen, which can be seen in three layers in the middle, they could have belonged either to a man or a woman. A DNA analysis, performed under the direction of Dr. Walther Parson at the Institute for Forensic(?) Medicine at the Medieval University of Innsbruck unfortunately furnished no knew insights. Through the archaeological find, the architectural history of the castle can be dated to the 15th century, with the help of Carbon-14 dating. The underpants date to sometime around 1440 and were disposed of as waste in the spandrel, during construction on the castle when an additional floor was added. This practice was common in the Middle Ages whereby one could get rid of garbage withou much cost. As the floor was laid over the spandrel, which the history of the castle indicates was in the year 1485, the waste became "out of sight, out of mind". Besides which, they could also serve as an insulating material between the floors.

The find of these underpants now makes it possible for archaologists to research the exact design and cut and to examine the seam techniques and materials that were used and to discover details that one can't determine from pictures. This promises new, exciting discoveries concerning underwear production in the 15th century. Eventually the underpants can be reconstructed so that one can experience a medieval "clothing-feel".


I'll add one comment from my own research on the topic of medieval underpants. The comment about not being able to determine whether the garment belonged to a man or woman, while technically true in an absolute sense, doesn't take into account the significant amount of evidence that this particular garment was not only restricted to men's use at the time, but was considered a "definitively masculine" garment in the sense that it was used symbolically in art to indicate masculine authority and the usurpation thereof.

Still and all, this find is very exciting, not only for the information it provides about the particular garment but for the promise of all the other textile finds there may be waiting for us out there.

Date: 2011-01-16 04:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ppfuf.livejournal.com
A flute? and shoes?
I tried googling around, but didn't find anything else about the dig. Is this the right castle? http://www.schlosstirol.it/content.php?lang=2

Date: 2011-01-16 04:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hrj.livejournal.com
Here's the original blog post I got the information from Togs from Bogs (http://togs-from-bogs.blogspot.com/2011/01/spectacular-undies.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+blogspot%2Ftogs-from-bogs+%28a+stitch+in+time+-+togs+from+bogs%29&utm_content=LiveJournal). Schloss Lengberg is in the TIrol region but it's a different one than you found. Evidently this is a relatively new find, so there isn't much in the way of technical publications yet. And here's an abstract for what looks like it's going to be a NESAT article on the same find (http://www.nesat.org/abstracts/lecture_nutz.pdf) but focusing on the bra-like objects. It looks like it contains a bunch of the same text as the one I translated, which provides a reality-check on my accuracy.

No indication if/when the shoes are going to be published, though.

Date: 2011-01-16 07:52 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Medieval women didn't wear underpants? What did they do about menstrual protection?

Date: 2011-01-16 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hrj.livejournal.com
It's a question that's often brought up in this context, but the answer is that there are a lot of options for dealing with menstruation that don't require underpants. (In fact there are relatively few that do require underpants.) Mind you, some or the options are ones that 21st century members of industrial western societies would consider a bit squicky. But consider that even as recently as my own girlhood (we're talking 40 years ago) the two options offered me (pad-and-belt and tampons) didn't require underpants.

The other side of the question is that research on the details of historic menstruation technology is sadly lacking -- largely due to people's evident reluctance to write about those details. And it would be fascinating to know more about it. But given the gap in knowledge, people tend to project their own modern experiences onto the topic and come up with misleadingly limited conclusions.

Publication of the finds from Lengberg

Date: 2011-05-16 11:26 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Only the flute has been published yet. Unfortunately it is already sold out but they are planning a reprint and the 2nd edition may be ordered in advance.

link: http://www.uibk.ac.at/urgeschichte/publ/alle_publ.html


Publication:

Michael Schick
Die Einhandflöte aus den Gewölbezwickelfüllungen von Schloss Lengberg in Osttirol. Lengberger Studien zur Mittelalterarchäologie 1. (The tabor pipe from the vaulting filling of Castle Lengberg in Eastern Tyrol. Lengberg-Studies on Medieval Archaeology 1)NEARCHOS, Beiheft 8, 2010.

1. Auflage vergriffen.
2. Auflage im Druck.

Date: 2012-07-17 03:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elessa.livejournal.com
I just read this article published today on the Daily Mail site
Found in a castle vault, the scraps of lace that show lingerie was all the rage 500 years ago
(http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2174568/Found-castle-vault-scraps-lace-lingerie-rage-500-years-ago.html). It has some fairly decent pictures of the undergarments in question.

I thought you might like to read it if you hadn't yet seen the pics. I came across your post as I was looking for more info.

Date: 2012-07-18 03:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hrj.livejournal.com
Yes, another friend pointed me at that article and I've been having a fun little discussion about it over on facebook. I'm eagerly awaiting the full technical publications!

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